Inside Podcasting - August 29th, 2019 |

Inside Podcasting (Aug 29th, 2019)

New Episode!! / Trump Taj Mahal / Acast Lands $$ / Plagiarism *Again*

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Hello Readers — 

Our second interview with a podcaster on our podcast is now live! This time, I speak with former Fortune writer Jessi Hempel, who is now the host of LinkedIn's podcast Hello Monday. I loved talking with Jessi about what it's like, as a first-time podcaster, to create a show from the ground up. In addition, Jessi shares how she lands incredible guests like Abby Wambach, Elizabeth Gilbert and Seth Meyers, and I share my worst interview nightmare. 

Here's a link to the show — but you can find it anywhere you listen (we have finally made it into Google Podcasts — hurray!).

One other note: I'd like to build a reader-created Twitter list of the top 100+ podcasty people we should follow on the platform. Please reply to this email with suggestions or feel free to DM me. I'll start adding them to a list on the @InsidePodcstng page. 

Thanks, everyone! Please listen to the new episode if you have a chance! We want to know what you think! Is it useful? Fun? Boring? Don't be shy. Lay it on me!


1. Even if you already have a basic understanding of how Donald Trump's Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City morphed into a full-blown dumpster fire, you won't get bored by Lauren Ober's snappy retelling of the story in the finale of Spectacular Failures. The episode features an eye-opening look at the history of the Atlantic City region; in its early days, white immigrants hired black men to push them around the city's famed Boardwalk on "rolling chairs," helping bring to life the f**ked up idea that by hiring black labor they would be "fully made into Americans." The show also reflects on Trump's Atlantic City legacy, years after Trump filed for bankruptcy numerous times, fled the scene and pronounced his endeavors there as a victory. You can binge all episodes of Spectacular Failures now. — SPECTACULAR FAILURES

2. Podcast company Acast has accepted a €25 million (approximately $27.7 million U.S.) "quasi-equity" financing deal from the European Investment Bank (EIB) to deepen its R&D efforts and help expand the company's audio distribution capabilities. The deal is deemed "quasi-equity" because under the terms of the UK's "Juncker plan," the investment provides the EIB with a no-share-ownership stake in the company (you wacky Brits!). I found this statement, from EIB VP Alexander Stubb, refreshingly honest: "Everyone loves a good podcast, but it can be hard to make a living off of this type of infotainment. I think it’s important that a European provider for this type of service exists, which gives all voices the possibility to be heard." — RAIN NEWS

3. Throwback Thursday: Over the weekend, I enjoyed this episode of Podcast Junkies, in which Harry Duran interviews Jordan Harbinger of The Jordan Harbinger Show (Harbinger previously co-hosted The Art of Charm). The interview, titled "What You Need to Do to Crush Your Next Interview," allows Harbinger, who's interviewed A-listers like Tim Ferriss and Chelsea Handler, to share how he continues to churn out engaging fare. The pair discuss how Harbinger preps for each episode, strategies he employs to keep amped-up guests from taking over the narrative, and whose fault it is when an interview goes south. 

4. In a recent episode of Transom and PRX's HowSound, Transom founder Rob Rosenthal discovered that reviewing podcasts is harder than he anticipated. Despite that, I found his critique of Sound Exploder to be on point. In a prologue, Rob discloses that he was a fan of the podcast in its early days, then grew bored with the format. However, a new emphasis on storytelling has brought him back into the fold. (I agree with Rob that this shift — albeit still unevenly implemented — has felt like a good move for the show.) In this episode, sit back and listen to Rob's analysis of a recent episode featuring Sheryl Crow (an artist to whom he's not typically partial), and decide if you like the show's more narrative-friendly style. Rob also reviews Spotify's Stay Free: The Story of the Clash in a previous episode. — TRANSOM

5. More plagiarism: this time the offender(s) have lifted an episode of Helen Zaltzman's The Allusionist — jokes and all — for an upcoming book. Although Helen seems irked but relatively unfazed, I think we should be asking ourselves: what are the steps podcasters should be taking to protect their intellectual property? 

6. "In an industry that lacks a large number of professional critics, user-generated podcast reviews might be too difficult to manage and not worth preserving," that's Ashley Carman, in a story for The Verge. Carman explains that sometimes specific pods are unfairly targeted with poor reviews (see: Obscura). What do you think? Should we do away with reviews or is there a better way to provide podcasters with feedback? 

7. If you're London-based, carve out some time for the Podcast Maker Weekend, "a diverse series of podcasting workshops which take place toward the end of the London Podcast Festival." Organized by Martin Zaltz Austwick (who — fun fact — is married to Helen Zaltzman of The Allusionist), the show includes tracks on beginner and business issues, how shows get made, innovative technologies and, for the first time, audio fiction

8. Podcast producer Jason DeFillippo (The Jordan Harbinger Show, The Tim Ferriss Show) wants to know if you'd be interested in joining a podcasting club he's cooking up. Weigh in by clicking on the image below.

9. The folks behind podcast training outfit Rise & Shine have posted a link to a list of podcasters-for-hire on Twitter. According to the Rise & Shine Twitter handle, "the list is a response to a call out for anyone who would like more exposure."

10. As of this morning, Podchaser has opened up "early access" signups for a new service called the "Podchaser Social Feed." Evidently, users who register will have access to a personalized timeline, which will include details regarding "real-time guest appearances, recent reviews, new releases, and other features." Sign up here. H/T Podnews.

This newsletter was written and curated by podcast junkie and recovered publicist, Skye Pillsbury. Skye is also the host of Inside Podcasting, a podcast which gives podcasters a chance to discuss their craft. Over the years, Skye has crafted digital media strategies for brands like Yahoo! and Microsoft and worked regularly with media outlets such as the New York Times, Rolling Stone and NPR. Skye was famous for 49 minutes when she and her son were featured in an episode of Gimlet Media’s Heavyweight podcast. Follow her on Twitter @SkyePillsbury.

Editor: Kim Lyons (Pittsburgh-based journalist and managing editor at Inside).

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