Inside Podcasting - August 19th, 2019

Inside Podcasting (Aug 19th, 2019)

Crime Junkie Accused of Plagiarism / Chernobyl / Data on Spanish-Speaking Listeners / Joe Rogan is Super Rich

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Hello Inside Podcasting Readers! 

A warm welcome to those of you who subscribed to this newsletter after hearing about it at Podcast Movement last week. I was lucky enough to meet many of you, as well as a number of longtime readers, while at the show. In case you haven't heard, we also have a podcast of the same name, in which I interview podcasters and you can find it here (or wherever you listen). 

In Friday's issue, I published a number of comments "overheard" at the show — if you missed that one, it's here. I am in the process of compiling more of my notes, quotes and links to good recaps from others for Wednesday's issue. If you have a perspective on the show I should share, or a link to an interesting thread on the topic, please write back and lay it on me.


1. An award-winning journalist and a number of podcasters have accused the popular Crime Junkie hosts Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat of plagiarizing their work. In a post on the show's Facebook page, Cathy Frye, a former Arkansas Democrat-Gazette journalist, wrote: "You quoted a portion of MY copyrighted story almost verbatim...I then started listening to your other podcasts and – SURPRISE! – discovered that you don’t cite sources or credit news organizations." After similar allegations from other podcasters emerged, a number of episodes were removed from Crime Junkie's portfolio and Flowers did not show up at a planned appearance at Podcast Movement last week. Crime Junkie's PR agent pointed me to a statement posted to the pod's Facebook group which reads, "Consistent with our commitment to exactness, we recently made the decision to pull down several episodes from our main feed when their source material could no longer be found or properly cited...we are committed to working within the burgeoning podcast industry to develop and evolve its standards on these kinds of issues." Many fans felt this response failed to take adequate responsibility; others defended the hosts and said they'd keep listening. Interested in investigating this for yourself? Start by watching this ten-minute video, posted by the creator of The Trail Went Cold, which compares and contrasts one of his episodes with a similar installment from Flowers' show. — BUZZFEED NEWS

2. If you tuned into HBO's excellent Chernobyl series  — or even if you didn't — I recommend this bonus episode of its companionship podcast, in which creator Craig Mazin, host Peter Sagal and star Jared Harris, discuss the global reaction to the show. But the main event in my mind is Mazin's preamble, in which he reflects on (what the U.S. believes) was another Russian nuclear-related explosion on August 8. Similar to what transpired after the devastating events in Chernobyl, the Russian government has released only spotty details about the events, but reports show that troubling levels of radiation have been detected in nearby regions. "Does any of this sound sickly familiar?" asks Mazin. Yes, yes it does. — UPROXX

3. Encuesta Pod has released a study of podcast listening behavior among Spanish-speaking people. The study was driven by Adonde Media and Duolingo founder Martina Castro, and surveyed over 2,153 folks from 18 countries. Key findings: 53 percent of respondents listen on Spotify; YouTube and Apple Podcasts have the same number of listeners (whoa!); 79 percent of listeners listen to 90 percent of an episode or more; 40 percent listen in the morning; the most popular genres are history, culture and news; and 40 percent of people surveyed are willing to listen to an ad. Read the whole thing; it's fascinating. — ENCUESTA POD

4. No matter how many dustups he's involved in, no one should feel sorry for Joe Rogan. According to an August 17 piece in Showbiz Cheatsheet, Rogan rakes in about $25 million per year (the author's calculations are admittedly unscientific, but the number sounds feasible). The show, which can give A-list guests upwards of 7 million views on its YouTube channel, is currently listed at number four on the Apple charts (Crime Junkies comes in at number one — we'll see how long that lasts).

5. In a recent interview with Claudia Dreifus of The New York Review of Books, podcast godfather Ira Glass admits that he would be intimidated by the prospect of interviewing Howard Stern."I don't like interviewing famous people. They make me nervous. I've always tried to avoid interviewing famous people," says Glass. You can read the interview and listen to an audio clip of their discussion here

6. "There are so many inventive rumours about the morning after pill that Fleetwood Mac could write an album about it!" That's UK-based (and larger-than-life personality) Alix Fox explaining why she teamed up with ellaOne to create My Morning After, a four-part series which dispels myths and misunderstandings about a pill that's still "a headache" to get your hands on. 

7. Cabana is set to rep Sources Say: A Page Six Podcast, a celebrity gossip show based on the famed column from the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid The New York Post (*original founder Alexander Hamilton rolls in grave*). The show, which promises to reveal "insider gossip and news...straight from our editors," arrives sometime this fall. 

8. As of this month, Spotify for Podcasters and Pandora for Podcasters are both live. Spotify's offering provides podcasters with additional "data and insights" regardless of pod hosting company, while the Pandora service allows creators to submit their shows for inclusion in their podcast library. I just submitted Inside Podcasting to both and it took me less than 15 minutes (if you're already listed in Spotify's library, you'll simply link your show to the new service).

9. According to All Access, the CBC has announced that five podcasts in its portfolio will be reinvented as TV properties. The list of pods and TV production houses are: Someone Knows Something, First Generation Films; Uncover: The Village, Noble Entertainment; Personal Best, 3Arts Entertainment; Tai Asks Why, Irwin Entertainment; and Alone: A Love Story, Sienna Films. Mazel to all involved. 

10. In case you missed it, Veritone is teaming up with ART19 to allow the podcast platform's buyers "to target ads to consumers based on the content of the episode they’re listening to." Unsurprisingly, reaction from Podcast Twitter was mixed

This newsletter was written and curated by podcast junkie and recovered publicist, Skye Pillsbury. Over the years, Skye has crafted digital media strategies for brands like Yahoo! and Microsoft and worked regularly with media outlets such as the New York Times, Rolling Stone and NPR. Skye was famous for 49 minutes when she and her son were featured in an episode of Gimlet Media’s Heavyweight podcast. Follow her on Twitter @SkyePillsbury.

Editor: Kim Lyons (Pittsburgh-based journalist and managing editor at Inside).

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